tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post4950646960088394920..comments2023-10-24T06:06:27.606-07:00Comments on The Deaf Perspective: Understanding the Libertarian Party's Disability PolicyLeah Katz-Hernandezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05206701649962637352noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-19573144502337190992022-01-08T22:16:16.740-08:002022-01-08T22:16:16.740-08:00I am a Libertarian who uses a wheelchair. I person...I am a Libertarian who uses a wheelchair. I personally do not believe that ramps should be mandatory in privately owned buildings. For one thing, such regulations are more prohibitive to small businesses than to large, established businesses. It is basically giving large corporations an even greater advantage over small, local competitors. Second, wheelchair ramps are one size fits all situation. Many businesses might do well with other options, such as a home delivery service. Going out in a wheelchair bus costs me a lot of time, money, and hassle. I much prefer to order things and have them delivered; ironically the covid lockdowns have made this much easier since many businesses began using such services. Rather than the government mandating one solution for everyone, businesses should have the choice of finding alternative ways to get their product to customers, and alternative hiring practices for disabled people, such as working from home via phone or computer (another practice which covid has ironically made much more accessible for many people).Effrenatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08414163138390640417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-59037879565167637402019-09-15T19:29:05.022-07:002019-09-15T19:29:05.022-07:00Thank you for this blog and I thank the people who...Thank you for this blog and I thank the people who commented even more. You see I was leaning strongly towards the libertarian party until I read your views in regards to the disabled. I believe those of us that are disabled would have little or no quality of life if we could even survive at all,under your idea of utopia.<br />But God bless anyway. I pray none of you ever become disabled and have to be totally dependent the goverment. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16886770594127187901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-30483004797498528652014-10-27T03:56:38.889-07:002014-10-27T03:56:38.889-07:00I love the accommodation of best penthouse nyc whe...I love the accommodation of <a href="https://www.toshislivingroom.com/" rel="nofollow">best penthouse nyc</a> where I extended my stay for 3 more days. I wish I could stay there only. Everything was superb and also cost was reasonable. I loved their services also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-48268603230685075772014-02-03T04:36:55.810-08:002014-02-03T04:36:55.810-08:00Hey maryleew, can you email me to discuss this fur...Hey maryleew, can you email me to discuss this further? leesja@gmail.com I have a son with autism, consider myself a Libertarian, but feel forced to use government-provided services because there don't seem to be any other practical options for me and my family. I'd like to discuss this topic with you further if you're interested.LAA and Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16587951326698052928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-24482513781333696512012-08-31T09:45:50.570-07:002012-08-31T09:45:50.570-07:00I have two autistic kids. We're a one income ...I have two autistic kids. We're a one income family, and receive SSI for my twins. Hubby stays home with them because it's hard to find adequate day care for them. I understand the Libertarian party endorses abolishing all income based govt help? That private charity would be sufficient for those with disabilities in need? I'm afraid that I just don't have enough faith in the general public for that. otherwise I'd be Libertarian all the way. Somebody give me some insight on this please!maryleewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14775017065511127515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-31837613552013231022011-08-24T20:04:23.930-07:002011-08-24T20:04:23.930-07:00I also agree with Greenpalm,and that is coming fro...I also agree with Greenpalm,and that is coming from someone who has lived with Spina Bifida all his life, so i know what it means to be physically impaired, face the oppression and ridicule that comes along with it, and be dependent on government benefits to get by. I would imagine there are plenty of LP's who might like to do away with government aid programs, but (and im not certain of this) i'd like to think the Libertarian majority means only to limit such aid to the needy who truly have no other options - <i>that</i> i have no problem with. We all know that there are a helluva lot more people leeching off the system than there should be for whom that is the <i>easiest</i> option, not the <i>only</i> one. People capable of taking responsibility for their own well-being should be doing so. I think thats a pretty reasonable expectation. As far as the LP being naive, well i have to disagree. I think much of the anti-humanitarian / anti-altruistic attitudes prevalent amongst the american public nowadays stems from - like greenpalm said - the fact that the government coercing people to be invariably tolerant and accommodating by making it a crime to be otherwise, and not to mention overtaxed and overburdened for the benefit of many many people who are perfectly capable of pulling their own weight, or at least <b>more of it than they do</b> because they don't wanna work for a living. Granted the LP does have it's flaws just like any other aspect of politics, but you might want to try and take a good look at the big picture that libertarians set their sights on.tribudellalunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592043362986158339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-77948063872789877272010-12-29T18:23:07.019-08:002010-12-29T18:23:07.019-08:00I couldn't have said it better than greenpalm....I couldn't have said it better than greenpalm.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10233363834870845760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-37109404466700761172009-04-26T05:03:00.000-07:002009-04-26T05:03:00.000-07:00I lean in the direction of libertarianism, but not...I lean in the direction of libertarianism, but not the Libertarian Party. <br /><br />What I see is a golden opportunity; over 50 million people identify themselves as disabled in the USA. Wow! Talk about a target market! People with a disability are consumers with money to spend on products and services. Any business which does not make its products and services available to over 50 million people is losing one heck of a lot of opportunity. Such a business is less likely to survive in the long run. Any business which does not hire from that pool of labor is missing out a lot of talent and skill and will likely be out produced by its competitors.<br /> <br />If we could get the government out of our pockets, we would all have more money to spend on products and services. As a person who is able temporarily and can see myself disabled in the future, I will not want to spend my dollars with somebody who is only accessible to me because the federal government forced it. I want to spend my money with individuals who value diversity. I will want to sell my labor power and the products of my labor power to individuals who do value diversity. <br /> <br />Free trade breaks down prejudice while government coercion leads to negativity. Libertarian philosophy is all about freedom to control one’s life and one’s property as an extension of one’s body. Libertarian philosophy values the uniqueness of each individual. I believe the principles of libertarianism are better suited to the wide range of diversity found in the world than any other approach.<br /><br />I suggest people read For a New Liberty, The Libertarian Manifesto by Murray Rothbard. Rothbard started the Libertarian Party and was later kicked out because the party lost sight of the values upon which it was founded. Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.ludwig55https://www.blogger.com/profile/12168030365583911882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-43506542044529153772009-04-26T04:54:00.000-07:002009-04-26T04:54:00.000-07:00I lean in the direction of libertarianism, but not...I lean in the direction of libertarianism, but not the Libertarian Party. <br />What I see is a golden opportunity; over 50 million people identify themselves as disabled in the USA. Wow! Talk about a target market! People with a disability are consumers with money to spend on products and services. Any business which does not make its products and services available to over 50 million people is losing one heck of a lot of opportunity. Such a business is less likely to survive in the long run. Any business which does not hire from that pool of labor is missing out a lot of talent and skill and will likely be out produced by its competitors. <br />If we could get the government out of our pockets, we would all have more money to spend on products and services. As a person who is able temporarily and can see myself disabled in the future, I will not want to spend my dollars with somebody who is only accessible to me because the federal government forced it. I want to spend my money with individuals who value diversity. I will want to sell my labor power and the products of my labor power to individuals who do value diversity. <br />Free trade breaks down prejudice while government coercion leads to negativity. Libertarian philosophy is all about freedom to control one’s life and one’s property as an extension of one’s body. Libertarian philosophy values the uniqueness of each individual. I believe the principles of libertarianism are better suited to the wide range of diversity found in the world than any other approach.<br />I suggest people read For a New Liberty, The Libertarian Manifesto by Murray Rothbard. Rothbard started the Libertarian Party and was later kicked out because the party lost sight of the values upon which it was founded. Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion.ludwig55https://www.blogger.com/profile/12168030365583911882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-492929451481556162009-04-18T06:23:00.000-07:002009-04-18T06:23:00.000-07:00I wish I had been there. I am a Libertarian. I a...I wish I had been there. I am a Libertarian. I am hearing but I have about a half-dozen friends who are deaf, and other friends with other disabilities. I understand how Libertarianism can work in this situation. I also understand how it is a violation of the restaurant owner's rights to require a ramp. I believe that what has changed and what needed to change over the last 25 years are public attitudes - NOT laws. If Libertarian policies were in effect and a privately owned restaurant opened without a wheelchair ramp, I envision disabled people and their friends and family and other supporters actively picketing outside the doors. I can imagine blogs and websites and emails circulating lists of restaurants to be boycotted because they are not providing access. I can see the owner's embarrassment at his failure to provide a ramp. If the owner is simply a mean curmudgeon who hates people who use wheelchairs, I can see other people finding that distasteful and refusing to do business with him. We do that sort of thing all the time in our country now. There are news stories that cover "unfair" discriminatory behavior. There is public outrage. People put their money where there mouth is, and business owners would want to avoid all that negative publicity and they would fix the problem, by building a ramp. <br /><br />I think there are other ways to motivate people than by coercion. I recognize that this method would probably mean that there are still restaurants that people in wheel chairs would have trouble accessing, but I American culture would not tolerate wide swaths of refusal to serve people with disabilities. We'd be furious!<br /><br />Let's imagine another scenario. What if an American wants to open a restaurant. When he takes a look at the necessary expense in order to meet all the requirements of the ADA, he realizes that he can't afford it and he doesn't bother opening his restaurant. If he doesn't open his restaurant, he can't hire people and so no new jobs are created. He doesn't start buying produce from the local supplier, he doesn't spend his money on outfitting his new restaurant, etc. etc. Without the ADA, maybe he could open his restaurant in the beginning and eventually add ramps or other means of accessibility once he'd had it up and running for a while and was making some money. The ADA isn't designed to prevent people from being successful, but the unintended consequence is that it could.<br /><br />It's not accurate to say that Libertarians don't see anything wrong with discrimination or exclusion. I do, and other Libertarians do too. Discrimination and exclusion are reprehensible attitudes. I would be party to that vocal public outcry at a restaurant that refused to put in a ramp. I would speak out against the restaurant and I would not do business there. I would forward the lists of exclusionary restaurants to my friends and say, "Don't eat at this place, they refuse to put in a ramp!" However, that does not mean that I think the restaurant owner should be required BY LAW to put in the ramp. That is coercion and a violation of his property rights. He should be permitted to do whatever he wishes with property that he owns. I am confident that there will be social and financial consequences for him if he does not provide these things, and I would be personally part of that kind of motivation.<br /><br />The thing with Libertarian ideals is that they are really radically different from the way things are now, and it's hard to see the big picture. It's a common misconception that Libertarians are ungiving and heartless, but it's not really true. I want to protect the disabled people, but I want to protect the potential restaurant owner too.greenpalmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01270097172421228598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-553083349183465599.post-12263380521184082382009-01-15T14:10:00.000-08:002009-01-15T14:10:00.000-08:00Impressive. Since it wasn't too long ago that we w...Impressive. Since it wasn't too long ago that we were without the ADA, the Civil Rights Act, and other laws favoring equality, we should study this party very carefully to see where we came from just 25 years ago.<BR/><BR/>It is a warning to us that this philosophy still exists and that there are substantial numbers of people who don't see anything wrong with discrimination or exclusion. If we aren't vigilant, some of their ideas could creep back into government as new laws are passed.Dianrezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07077219189139398901noreply@blogger.com